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Charlie Reams Excited? You should be!

Michael Cullen Where do I sign up? :P

Matt Morrison Cheers Charlie xx

Michael - I've popped you randomly into the list. See the forum: http://www.c4countdown.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=9002&start=0

Matt Morrison FOR THE RECORD: Scott Gillies starts with 3 wins and 301 points. The first game he plays, the first game this series, will be his last until the finals, win or lose. (Sorry Scott.)

Chris Butler Is it too late to organise this? I can't post on the c4c forum so it makes things difficuly when it comes to tournies...

Chris Butler Sorry, I mean 'enter' obviously not 'organsie'!

Matt Morrison Ok Chris, done. Thanks for getting in quick.

Chris Butler Cheers Matt :)

Marcus Hares I'd like to join as well please MM if it's not too much trouble - cheers

Matt Morrison You're in baby!

Marcus Hares Thank you!

Michael Cullen Oh this is an actual tournament? I thought it was Charlie testing the chat on tournament system, I'll stay signed up mind, tournaments ftw.

Michael Cullen Could you add my brother Nathan too please? Cheers.

Zarte Siempre I wouldn't mind if there's room :)

Barry French Nor would I :)

Matt Morrison 4 names added...

Matt Conway You can add me if there's room Matt. Cheers.

Matt Morrison Done, Matt.

Charlie Reams This seems relevant to most of you, perhaps you should vote on it: http://www.apterous.org/ticket_view.php?ticket=544

Matt Morrison Come on, son.

Scott Gillies just seen ur email and one from Kieran gonna try play it tonight

Julie McCarthy Drawn against Innis, lol! Just as well I'll be knocked out as I'm off on me hols on Saturday.

Chris Butler Who's next up then? Also, where can I view the running order?

Chris Butler Innis is on 464, what about Scott? How many make the finals? Sorry for all the questions, cheers

Martin Long Next game is Matthew Tassier vs. Ryan Taylor with the winner of that one beating me in the next game. There is a topic on the forum with the full order of play.

Chris Butler Ok cheers Martin

Marcus Hares Also, if you scroll down this page it shows the current top 8 (presumably the top 8 make the finals)

Chris Butler Ahh yes cheers Marcus, forever highlighting my terrible arithmetic. "It was a typo guv' I swear, I have 463 written on my scribblings!"

Chris Butler But Scott presumably has points from 3 previous matches to take into account?

Innis Carson Yep, I believe Scott has 399 in total. Last series : http://www.apterous.org/to_tourney.php?tourney=5

Martin Long I have just gone through the draw on the forum, and (even with my 4 wins) I don't think I'll go through to the quarter finals.

Its going to be a fantastic tournament, some great players still to come!

Michael Cullen Me vs. Heather Badcock, that's me out.

Rhys Benjamin Is this ever going to happen?

Graeme Cole I'm sure it will, but Matt needs to put the game in the tourney system and Heather is next up. They've got more important things going on at the moment.

Michael Cullen I'm in no hurry, like Graeme said, there's far more important things in life, i'm not fussed when it happens, i'm sure Matt or Heather will let me know when she's ready to play.

Matt Morrison Hey guys. I'll speak to Heather tomorrow about whether she'll bother. Sorry for the delay! x

Mark D If not, sub in on her behalf? Seems fair, all things considered.

Mark D .....especially since she's no longer a paid member and has no trial games remaining.

Matt Morrison Yeah that last 15 quid didn't work out too well for her. Over a quid a game.

Matt Morrison Due to Heather having no trial games and being otherwise occupied I've promoted Cullen (there's three, presume I chose the right one) vs French.

Michael Cullen Thanks.

Matt Morrison Let's do this?

Michael Cullen I never see Barry on

Michael Cullen Last seen 6/6/12

Matt Morrison And no response to your emails?

Mark D He might be dead

Michael Cullen I agree with Mark. And i'll try an email now.

Matt Morrison You haven't even emailed yet? I might ban you both at this rate.

Michael Cullen Sent the email. I was unaware there was a rush for the game to be played, sorry.

Mark D The league table below is going to need revision to give Scott his dues.

Marcus Hares I'm in no rush, I just renewed my subscription - hoping I might get to my game(s) before this one runs out though ;)

Matt Morrison Have asked Charlie to do the table Mark - not sure if he can though, being that it is all automatically worked out by the games registered to the tourney in question. I did consider adding Scott's games to this series rather than the last when Charlie added the new "add to tourney" functionality but it turns out one game can't be added to a different tourney when it is already in one. The other issue of course would be that Scott's opponents in those games would then have starting scores for this series, which would be another fuck up. So yeah, hopefully Charlie can do it manually.

Michael Cullen Still no response from Barry

Matt Morrison Will give it a few more days as you forgot to e-mail - 20th seems fair as a week after?

Michael Cullen That's fine, but what if he doesn't respond? I'm quite active on Apterous.

Barry French hi sorry Ive been away for a few days

Barry French Check emails every day but it went to my junk mail, only caught it by accident. Ill get the game played asap, do apologise for the delay

Barry French So what happens do we just arrange when to play then inform the organiser of the result, then schedule next game?

Matt Morrison Hey Barry - good to have you back. It's automatically attached to both your accounts - you only have to both be online for it to appear in your game windows. So you just need to find a time to meet online to play it, the result goes into the system automagically too.

Barry French awesome :) I'll be back on more regularly now I have an audition for Countdown so fingers x'd I can come across Michael for our game

Matt Morrison Since Martin we've had three one-time winners in a row. Can Charlie continue the trend?...

Andy Platt Nope. (Well, probably).

Matt Morrison Nice, ballsy. Also noticed it's only 2 one-time winners anyway unless Charlie does beat you. Rubbish attempt at conversational statistics by me.

Zarte Siempre wack-wack-wahoowah (Zarte - Providing sound effects since... just now)

Ian Volante Is that masturbation or vomiting?

Zarte Siempre It can be whatever you want it to be ;)

Matt Morrison Let's do this. We were temporarily on a good run of form.

Charlie Reams Talks are ongoing.

Matt Morrison Come on son. Rhys - Charlie owns apterous, so he is clearly not going to get disqualified. And he's current champ. So you know, I'm not giving this many more days.

Charlie Reams He's apparently only available 4.30 - 5.30 which is a bit ridiculous. He's also stopped replying to emails. ffs.

Graeme Cole To be fair to Rhys, the other day he came into aptochat and tried to get your attention for about half an hour while you were presumably away from keyboard, so it's not like he's not trying to play.

Zarte Siempre I'll back Graeme up on that.

Rhys Benjamin I've had a problem with my aptomail recently (only receiving about half of it) and I'm in the middle of a drama production. I'm trying to eek out my hours by just having it on whenever I can, so it's not like I'm not trying.

Matt Morrison Cool, ok, well, you know, we all want this game played. Good luck.

Rhys Benjamin This is annoying - Charlie's "last seen" thing says he's online NOW, but he's elected not to go into the game, when I'm there.

Graeme Cole That just means he's got a window open on the apterous web site, not that he's deliberately ignoring you. The notification box refreshes every few seconds and that's what you're seeing.

Rhys Benjamin I'd quite like to get this thing done.

Matt Morrison I'm officially voting thumbs down on everything Charlie and Rhys do. For now at least.

Rhys Benjamin I do apologise; I've got diarrhoea.

Michael Cullen 18 points!

Andy Platt good 9 that

Matt Conway Might as well end series 2 now ;)

Matt Morrison FFS

Ian Volante Either shit or get off the pot...

Zarte Siempre I'll gladly take another bash at it ;P

Graeme Cole It's a simulation of a series. That means there has to be an annoyingly long gap in the middle of summer.

Matt Morrison :)

Barry French Cant Rhys just be put through if he has made more effort to get the game played?

Rhys Benjamin We've made a plan for 6pm every night aside from Wednesday.

Matt Morrison Thanks Rhys. Kids week for Charlie.

Andy Platt :(

Charlie Reams Good idea Barry, you utter genius.

Rhys Benjamin I'M NOT LAST!!!!!!! (No offence, Kieran)

Barry French Charlie why are you so rude towards me?

Eskay Raman how do you join this tourney?

Eskay Raman Matt, could you please add my name in?

Charlie Reams As with the previous game, I have taken the initiative of contacting my opponent and haven't heard anything back. I do hope this is enough effort to satisfy Barry French.

Michael Cullen You're entered when it's your turn, but if you signed up, Eskay. Signups are closed now I think.

Barry French Is it your normal business to take peoples hard earned then be rude as you like?

Eskay Raman Thanks Michael

Mark D Barry, I believe Charlie resents your presumption that he wasn't doing enough, as it is not something which you had the authority to say, given that you are not aware of any private correspondence that had taken place between the two with regards to organising the game.

Ian Volante And, yes, I think it is!

Barry French It just seemed like Rhys was doing all the chasing, if that is not the case then i am sorry. But in either case I don't feel that being rude is appropriate. Giving me room to accept I was wrong and to apologize should be more than enough, not basically upset and make me not feel welcome on Apterous any more

Mark D You're not unwelcome Barry. Just don't be all up in other people's business like that, it's uncomfortable for them.

Michael Cullen

Michael Cullen You're welcome Eksay

Chris Butler It seems like the momemtum's lost again...

Charlie Reams I said if it didn't get played by the 13th then there would be a long delay, since Ive been out of the country for two weeks and now I'm moving house. So it proved. Not sure when I'll get Internet back.

Chris Butler Ah okay, just wondered, nae bother

Matt Morrison Let's go now boys?

Charlie Reams Havent heard anything from Joseph.

Charlie Reams JK and I will be playing at 7pm tomorrow (Sunday 2nd).

Matt Morrison Woo! Good news guys. May this be the last hiccup/hiccough of the tournament.

Mark James hiccough is wrong according to QI

Charlie Reams Graeme and I got ahead of the game: http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=781134

Matt Morrison You excellent bastards. We're back on track after that hiccuff.

Matt Morrison Jon Corby: The new Charlie Reams?

Charlie Reams I don't know, is Chris Hare repeatedly ignoring his emails, specifying impossibly small windows of availability and then turning up late despite having nothing more to do than homework and waiting for his voice to break? If so then yes.

Dan McColm ^ Best comment ever.

Graeme Cole Oh come on, I'm sure my voice will break any day now.

Graeme Cole But I think I should say in Joseph's defence that it's easy to assume a child should find it easier than an adult to keep an appointment because the child has more free time, but in practice it doesn't necessarily work like that. I'm sure if your 13-year-old self could post a reply he'd remind you that your parents can suddenly decide on a whim that you have to come shopping, or come downstairs and have dinner, or tidy your room, or whatever else, and it has to be *now*. Children have more free time, but adults have more control over when it is.

Graeme Cole I was referring to the "turning up late" bit, which as far as I can tell applied to Joseph and not Rhys. (Ignoring emails and specifying impossibly small windows of availability is still silly, child or adult.)

Mark D Cant Jon just be put through if he has made more effort to get the game played?

Matt Morrison For the record, I have absolutely zero evidence that either of them have made any effort at all. Charlie definitely made an effort.

Zarte Siempre The thread of conversation on this tournament is inevitably funnier than most things I see in a day...

Barry French I used to like you Mark...

Chris Hare Jon and I should be playing tonight (just after 8). I'll try to have my homework done in time.

Mark D Jokes, Barry!

Barry French I was joking too lol :) I hope one day they make the internet such that you can detect tone as well ;-)

Matt Morrison I set a precedent when I allowed Charlie/Joseph from 10 July til 2 September to get their game done. Therefore I have no choice but to allow Jon and Chris until 20 November to get theirs played. This tournament has become a fucking joke.

Zarte Siempre Do you mean Jon and Steve? Jon and Chris have already played....

Marcus Hares 19 of Steve's last 20 games were played between the hours of 5am-9am UK time, he has only played 5 times in the last 26 days, and not at all in the past 10 days. Presumably Jon and Steve have arranged a time to play, if they haven't then 20th Nov looks quite ambitious!

Steve Balog Jon and I arranged a time last week, but then the game decided to not work. We should be able to get this played fairly soon.

Charlie Reams So for once a delayed game actually is my fault!

Zarte Siempre Hahahaha - I thought it had been concluded that it was Iran's fault?

Charlie Reams Well sure, but then it's my fault for provoking them with my outlandish views on human rights etc.

Zarte Siempre What, that there should be some? :P

Josh Hurst Surely Scott's position in the league table is wrong...?

Josh Hurst Just looked at all the messages to see if this had already been discussed... it had. My bad!

Matt Morrison 18 more days til the fuckers are thrown out and it's what, me vs Chris Hare, Josh Hurst vs James Bradley? Not sure really.

Charlie Reams I did some magic for Scott.

Steve Balog Jon's not been on since the 27th it appears; I've been hopping on every so often to see if he's been on at the rough time we had decided on earlier before the game went down that one time.

Matt Morrison Charlie - thanks for that, looks good!

Steve - you know I love both Jon and yourself. It's nothing personal but if this game doesn't get played in the next 9 days I just have to get you both outta here.

Charlie Reams I was expecting a blowjob joke.

Matt Morrison IT'S TIME. Charlie, can you strike off the last two played games from the list?

Matt Morrison (sorry, i hope it's not much of an issue)

Charlie Reams I'd just schedule the next games, I'll mess with the database when I get a chance.

Matt Morrison thanks bud, will do so tomorrow morning

Charlie Reams Done.

Matt Morrison Not just done, spectacularly done.

Adam Gillard Not much of a simulation of a series if they can do 25 shows a week and it takes us online folk a year to get that many games sorted!

Matt Morrison Well said. We're picking up a pace again now though, thankfully.

Matt Morrison Come on Adam, I'm still waiting for you to play your game.

Adam Gillard Ooooooh! Exciting!

Chris Butler Is this the slowest moving tourney ever?

Jordan F You can blame me for this, some how I didn't even catch wind that we moved on to my game. I'll try to take care of this A.S.A.P.

Adam Gillard Jordan, the previous game was only completed yesterday, don't worry! I'm sure we'll be online together soon.

Adam Gillard Should mine and Ryan's points totals be 10 less (due to tiebreak conundrums)?

Matt Morrison I guess, yeah.

Charlie Reams I'll change it if it turns out to matter.

Adam Gillard The tournament has expired. You'll need to adjust the closing date because my fixture against Peter has disappeared.

Matt Morrison Shit on a brick. Charlie, help?

Charlie Reams Hope that's enough time now...

Zarte Siempre *snorts*

Matt Morrison Very good Charlie! Now you just need to fix the fact that every time I try and list Lee-Gillard it notes that the original fixture was 'unplayed' and sticks with this. Sorry to be such a pain, but to be fair I should probably get a couple of gold bugs for running a tournament so shit as to actually discover these quirks.

Charlie Reams File a bug if you think you found a bug. That doesn't seem wrong though. You don't need to add another copy of the same fixture.

Matt Morrison It's clearly a bug. I understand the nature of an "unplayed" game, but unless I am not thinking straight I can't see a situation where a tournament organiser would ever want to re-add that fixture again but leave it as "unplayed". I appreciate that this has only come up because of extending the dates of the tournament though, which is not a usual permission.

Perhaps there's a very slim chance that an organiser would remove an unplayed game and then decide "oh actually there should be a record that that game existed, but was unplayed" and re-add it. But if the ability to report unplayed games was supposed to be a function, then surely there should be a big "unplayed" button next to any open fixture so we can mark games proper as unplayed rather than just remove them.

Matt Morrison Oh. Does unplayed just mean it hasn't been played yet? Ignore all that then.

Ian Volante duh

Matt Morrison I thought it meant "was not completed in time" - i.e. *permanently* unplayed. For some reason it looked different to me than other fixtures I'd scheduled. Obviously I don't spend enough time on apterous staring at this fixture list.

Matt Morrison I blame Adam. I associated the word "unplayed" with his message about not being able to play the game.

Ian Volante This is a disgrace.

Charlie Reams And this is why you shouldn't report bugs in the comments!

Matt Morrison Not my finest hour. Still blaming everyone else though.

Marcus Hares MM, I've already played the next one against Ben - http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=902927

Matt Morrison Thanks for help Charlie.

Jordan Leckonby is it too late to enter this?

Matt Morrison Next one will be the biggest and best, and will start straight after the finals of this one. Maybe.

Rhys Benjamin And after 4 series will there be a Championship of Champions?

Matt Morrison i'd leave that til 8

Thomas Carey Niall, when can you be on to play our game? I'm quite flexible with times, pretty much anytime other than 7am-4pm on weekdays.

Andy Platt O rly? ^

Charlie Reams Thomas, you should aptomail Niall. The comments section isn't a good way to schedule a game.

Charlie Reams Second consecutive series in which I've dribbled lamely into the finals!

Matt Morrison Welcome yourself to Innis as a reward!

Matt Morrison Thomas Carey first up in series 3 with 2 wins and 186 points

Adam Gillard Is Innis vs Charlie up next?