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Jack Hurst This page could maybe be broken down into conundrums against humans, against bots and against both.

Eoin M Wow, I'm above Kirk!

Charlie Reams It's not really a fair comparison since he has harder conundrums and possibly better opposition.

Dan Johnson Yeah, I certainly wouldn't be on the list if a) bots are distinguished from human players, and b) it took into account the quality of the opposition you are playing against.

Eoin M Oh yeah, fair point Charlie, it's just I've never been above Kirk before.

Charlie Reams Trust me, it's better to be underneath him.

David O'Donnell A-LOL!! I am one of the top conundrum players. Fear me bitches!!!

Oliver Garner It's clearly biased towards people (like me) who play a lot of attacks against Prune and do the Ascension race.

Tracey Mills Wit Wooo!!!! top 20 at last

Tracey Mills Ha Ha Josh!

Tracey Mills Ha ha Marcus and Edward!

Sam Goodyear I think this table needs to be rejigged to take into account non Sherpa games more. I'm definitely not better than Innis at conundrums.

Adam Gillard Bet it would be close if you played him at Aegilops or Omelette conundrums, Sam. Further, if you and Innis were presented with 20 never-before-seen conundrums, I wouldn't know which way to call it.

Thomas Carey 20th?! What the heck?

Jim B I'm with Sam on this, any top conundrummers table that includes me on it has fundamental flaws.

Nick Deller Average solve time (counting 30s for a DNS) would be an interesting addition to the table, and possibly more revealing than raw maxes.

Sam Goodyear Thank you Adam, that's very high praise coming from someone well known for being one of the best conundrum players in the country.

Tracey Mills Hey Sam theres a 3 way tie atm

Tracey Mills Hey Edward.....3 way tie between you,me and Josh!!!!

Charlie Reams That's a 3-way I would watch.

Tracey Mills Very funny Charlie!

Tracey Mills Oh yeah? Charlie

Charlie Reams I'm really not sure how to respond to that.

Quinn James OK, so what are the rules/filters for this list?

Keith B I read somewhere that this table shows Apterous' top 25 conundrum players, according to average maximums in standard 30-second rounds. Only games from the last 30 days are considered, and players must have played at least 60 rounds in that time to be eligible. can't think where.

Adam Gillard I think Quinne was wondering whether it was just ODE games or CSW too.

Quinn James That's what I was wondering, yes.

Innis Carson And it would appear you were right to wonder, since I've gained about 40% since yesterday.

Adam Gillard And I was always a bit demoralised at not being in the top 25 here, but suddenly I'm in 4th! Thanks Quinne :)

Quinn James I'm a fan of fairness.

Adam Gillard Does it count as a missed conundrum when your opponent solves it?

Charlie Reams Yes.

Adam Gillard Wow; I obviously haven't played Innis very much in the last 30 days then.

Quinn James 4th is about as high as I'm going to get.

Quinn James or not

Quinn James (of course most of these folks are actually playing other people, so it means nothing)

David Barnard Lets look at the stats, I'm 38th on proranks and 74th on this, I'm so good at conundrums :(

David Barnard Took a year and a half of hard graft!

Transude Transude I can definitely beat David's earlier statement: 22nd on pro ranks and 68th on this!